Comments on: C4[3]: Each decision is an opportunity to fuck up

By: Philippe

Philippe — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:19:58 +0000

By: John C. Randolph

John C. Randolph — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:13:59 +0000

“Clang is the static analyzer and llvm is a gcc front-end.”

No, Clang is the C and Objective-C parser (C++ still under construction). LLVM is the Low Level Virtual Machine. Details available at LLVM.org.

-jcr

By: Philippe Guitard

Philippe Guitard — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:03:15 +0000

Great post Philippe!

For those looking for more details, listen to the podcast Philippe and I produce on a regular basis: http://www.cocoacast.com/?q=blog/189 (in French).

I know this is a shameless self promotion but we’re looking for more listeners!

By: Nico

Nico — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:58:09 +0000

(thanks for the summary of the conf by the way — pretty interesting)

By: Nico

Nico — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:45:40 +0000

Er… no, really, it _does_ run natively — you recompile your program on windows, etc. GNUstep on windows uses a native GDI graphic backend, no X11. Random example of a gnustep app running on windows: http://multixden.blogspot.com/2009/06/gshisen-on-windows.html … note the “in-window” menu automatically used. The only thing is that the UI theme is not the windows one, although you could change the theme. Greg Casamento is (iirc) working on creating a theme that uses the windows theme api directly.

By: Philippe

Philippe — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:49:26 +0000

@Nico I just got word from Chris Lloyd and Cocotron was closed-source until 2006. I have added this clarification in the post.

By: Philippe

Philippe — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:02:43 +0000

@Nico

1. I know that it does not run natively, but you could run it in a VM with full integration. Or you could reboot in GNUStep.
2. Updated license. Thanks!

About the time comment, I believe it something that Christopher Lloyd said during his talk. I will try to contact him for clarification.

By: Nico

Nico — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:01:11 +0000

FYI…

“Cocotron is an open-source, liberally-licensed project to port Cocoa to Windows. It is similar in intent to GnuStep, but has two big advantages.
First, it runs natively on Windows. No need for a “Yellow Box” or a reboot.
Second, it does not use the GPL license.”

1/ GNUstep does run natively on Windows…
2/ GNUstep’s license is the LGPL, not the GPL. Which means you can certainly use GNUstep in a proprietary application.

Not sure about the fact that Cocotron was started at the same time as gnustep. In any case, the first release was in 2006…